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+#$ TITLE: Sugar k Whoop rates
+#$ FIRMWARE_VERSION: 4.3
+#$ FIRMWARE_VERSION: 4.4
+#$ FIRMWARE_VERSION: 4.5
+#$ CATEGORY: RATES
+#$ STATUS: OFFICIAL
+#$ KEYWORDS: racing, rates, MultiGP, quaddiction, tyrant, sugar k
+#$ AUTHOR: sugarK
+#$ DESCRIPTION: Racing rates from Zak Smiley, aka SugarK, second fastest Dev in Betaflight.
+#$ DISCUSSION: https://github.com/betaflight/firmware-presets/pull/366
+#$ INCLUDE: presets/4.3/rates/defaults.txt
+
+
+set roll_expo = 54
+set pitch_expo = 54
+set yaw_expo = 54
+set roll_srate = 52
+set pitch_srate = 52
+set yaw_srate = 57
diff --git a/presets/4.5/tune/karate/karate_whoop_late_2024.txt b/presets/4.5/tune/karate/karate_whoop_late_2024.txt
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+#$ TITLE: Karate whoop late 2024
+#$ FIRMWARE_VERSION: 4.5
+#$ CATEGORY: TUNE
+#$ STATUS: EXPERIMENTAL
+#$ KEYWORDS: karate, 1S, race, brushless, whoop, 65mm, sugarK, KarateBrot
+#$ AUTHOR: sugarK
+
+#$ PARSER: MARKED
+
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
Karate Race 6S 5"
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION: This 1s whoop racing tune was developed using my custom Betafpv 5n1 build that weighs 15.6g [Air Brushless FC](https://betafpv.com/collections/brushless-flight-controller/products/air-brushless-flight-controller?variant=41142912745606) it is a slider tune allowing easy modification.
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION: This tune should work well on any BRUSHLESS powered quality whoop build in the sub 20g range. It shouldn't be used on a brushed whoop.
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION: ## Things to note:
+#$ DESCRIPTION: - **YOU HAVE TO USE RPM FILTERING WITH THIS TUNE!** Failure to do so might result in fire 🔥
+#$ DESCRIPTION: - Also this should be applied to a clean flash after you've setup your rates, swtiches, vtx tables etc.
+#$ DESCRIPTION: - To test arm the quad with props on, it should **sound clean with no grinding**. If it passes that then hover test and check motor temps.
+#$ DESCRIPTION: - **If anything is off, don't fly it!!**
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION:
+#$ DESCRIPTION: ## Second note... Radio links:
+#$ DESCRIPTION: 1. Make sure your radio firmware is up to date using either EdgeTX or OpenTX
+#$ DESCRIPTION: 1. Make sure your **ADC Filter is OFF** in the hardware page
+#$ DESCRIPTION: 1. Go to the radio (RC_LINK) presets and apply the correct setup for your system and link speed
+
+#$ DISCUSSION: https://github.com/betaflight/firmware-presets/pull/490
+
+#$ INCLUDE_WARNING: misc/warnings/en/rpm_filters.txt
+#$ INCLUDE: presets/4.4/tune/defaults.txt
+#$ INCLUDE: presets/4.5/filters/defaults.txt
+
+# --DSHOT --
+set motor_pwm_protocol = Dshot300
+
+# -- Gyro lowpass filters --
+set gyro_lpf1_dyn_min_hz = 0
+set gyro_lpf1_dyn_max_hz = 0
+set gyro_lpf1_static_hz = 0
+
+# -- Gyro Dynamic Notches --
+set dyn_notch_count = 1
+set dyn_notch_q = 600
+set dyn_notch_max_hz = 750
+
+# -- Dterm filtering --
+set dterm_lpf1_dyn_expo = 7
+
+# -- RPM filtering --
+set motor_poles = 12
+set dshot_bidir = ON
+set rpm_filter_fade_range_hz = 120
+set rpm_filter_harmonics = 1
+
+# -- iTerm --
+set iterm_relax_cutoff = 45
+
+# -- Misc --
+set thrust_linear = 20
+set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 445
+
+#$ OPTION BEGIN (CHECKED): Dynamic idle for sub 20g whoop ( recommended )
+ set dyn_idle_min_rpm = 120
+ set dyn_idle_p_gain = 35
+ set dyn_idle_start_increase = 60
+#$ OPTION END
+
+#$ OPTION BEGIN (CHECKED): Vbat sag compensation ( recommended )
+ set vbat_sag_compensation = 100
+#$ OPTION END
+
+#$ OPTION BEGIN (UNCHECKED): Over clock f411 with ICM42688p only
+ set cpu_overclock = 120MHZ
+#$ OPTION END
+
+# -- PID values --
+set simplified_pids_mode = RP
+set simplified_i_gain = 110
+set simplified_d_gain = 85
+set simplified_pi_gain = 95
+set simplified_dmax_gain = 80
+set simplified_feedforward_gain = 115
+set simplified_pitch_d_gain = 105
+set simplified_dterm_filter_multiplier = 90
+simplified_tuning apply
+
+#$ OPTION_GROUP BEGIN: Some popular RC Links
+
+ #$ OPTION BEGIN (UNCHECKED): Tracer/ELRS 250Hz
+ # Tracer/ELRS 250Hz
+
+ feature RX_SERIAL
+ set serialrx_provider = CRSF
+
+ #$ INCLUDE: presets/4.3/rc_link/generic/250hz_race.txt
+
+ #$ OPTION END
+
+ #$ OPTION BEGIN (UNCHECKED): ELRS 500Hz
+ # ERLS 500Hz
+
+ feature RX_SERIAL
+ set serialrx_provider = CRSF
+
+ #$ INCLUDE: presets/4.3/rc_link/generic/500hz_race.txt
+
+ #$ OPTION END
+
+ #$ OPTION BEGIN (UNCHECKED): ELRS 500Hz spicy ( recommended )
+ # ERLS 500Hz
+
+ feature RX_SERIAL
+ set serialrx_provider = CRSF
+
+ #$ INCLUDE: presets/4.3/rc_link/generic/500hz_race.txt
+
+ set feedforward_jitter_factor = 1
+ set feedforward_max_rate_limit = 100
+
+ #$ OPTION END
+
+ #$ OPTION BEGIN (UNCHECKED): ELRS 1000Hz
+ # ELRS 1000Hz
+
+ feature RX_SERIAL
+ set serialrx_provider = CRSF
+
+ #$ INCLUDE: presets/4.3/rc_link/generic/1000hz_race.txt
+
+ #$ OPTION END
+
+ #$ OPTION BEGIN (UNCHECKED): Ghost 250Hz
+ # Ghost 250Hz
+
+ feature RX_SERIAL
+ set serialrx_provider = GHST
+
+ #$ INCLUDE:presets/4.3/rc_link/generic/250hz_race.txt
+
+ #$ OPTION END
+
+ #$ OPTION BEGIN (UNCHECKED): Ghost 500Hz
+ # Ghost 500Hz
+
+ feature RX_SERIAL
+ set serialrx_provider = GHST
+
+ #$ INCLUDE: presets/4.3/rc_link/generic/500hz_race.txt
+
+ #$ OPTION END
+
+#$ OPTION_GROUP END
+
+#$ OPTION_GROUP BEGIN: Optional rates
+ #$ OPTION BEGIN (UNCHECKED): sugarK's rates
+ #$ INCLUDE: presets/4.3/rates/SugarK_whoop.txt
+
+ #$ OPTION END
+
+ #$ OPTION BEGIN (UNCHECKED): throttle expo for 30% hover throttle
+ set thr_mid = 30
+ set thr_expo = 65
+ #$ OPTION END
+
+ #$ OPTION BEGIN (UNCHECKED): throttle expo for 45% hover throttle
+ set thr_mid = 45
+ set thr_expo = 65
+ #$ OPTION END
+
+#$ OPTION_GROUP END
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